Editor's blog 9 August 2024
The Five Eyes Alliance and what are they hiding regarding UAP?
Until relatively recently no-one really knew much about the Five Eyes Alliance of countries: USA, Canada, UK, New Zealand and Australia.
Whilst listed in Wikipedia, bar being an intelligence/security analyst, few people will have known of its existence and its role in the world.
Even fewer people realised that the group had connections to the UFO subject and the secret world of government and intelligence agencies.
That changed considerably after a Canadian MP, Larry Maguire, published a letter in early 2023 that stated that the Five Eyes countries had been involved in UFO crash retrievals and also the reverse engineering of those recovered materials!
This was just months before David Grusch gave testimony on oath at the July witness congressional hearing, where he talked about several countries being involved in UFO crash retrievals and also that U.S. engineering/aerospace companies had been involved in reverse engineering programs.
Setting the scene
I think that before I go any further we should look at the Five Eyes group of nations and what agencies are a part of it.
Its origins lay in World War 2 with Wikipedia describing its beginnings and developing role as:
The alliance was formalized in the post-war era by the UKUSA Agreement in 1946. As the Cold War deepened, the intelligence sharing arrangement was formalised under the ECHELON surveillance system in the 1960s.
This system was developed by the FVEY to monitor the communications of the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc: it is now used to monitor communications worldwide.
The FVEY expanded its surveillance capabilities during the course of the "war on terror", with much emphasis placed on monitoring the World Wide Web. The alliance has grown into a robust global surveillance mechanism, adapting to new domains such as international terrorism, cyberattacks, and contemporary regional conflicts.
Suffice to say that it is a coalition of countries (English speaking) that cooperate on all forms of intelligence and national security issues.
Take a look at the image (see the first document listed above at the beginning of this blog - courtesy of Wikipedia) that shows the agencies, from each country, that are involved in the Five Eyes group of nations.
You quickly realise how specialist this group is and its powerful global role. And it doesn’t take too much thought to realise that it might be a perfect place to hide sensitive materials relating to the UFO/UAP subject.
Now take a look at the Larry Maguire letter (shown above, if full in the documents at the beginning of this blog) - dated 22 March 2023 - that really shook things up:
The letter reveals that away from public scrutiny high-level discussions about UAP were taking place. Information that Maguire had been told about the ‘reality’ of UAP and recovered technology and the direct mention of the Five Eyes Foreign Material Program.
The letter also mentions that ‘a prepared communication plan’ was to be in place by May 2023 (a date which I belive is significant as it links to the Grant Lavac FOI information he received - see below).
FOI and the Five Eyes
With the cat seemingly out of the bag a number of researchers began to focus in on the Five Eyes alliance.
One of the those researchers, an Australian called Grant Lavac, was one of the first to submit a FOI regarding his country's involvement in the UAP topic.
See the two-page document at the beginning of this blog.
It was his research that caused me to become involved in Five Eyes research from the UK perspective.
His initial submissions have received a lot of online support from the likes of Christopher Sharp of the Liberation Times and fellow Aussie and researcher and author, Ross Coulthart.
Those submissions have revealed interesting aspects of the Five Eyes involvement in UAP developments.
Whilst there was a denial to his questions that Australia has been involved in UAP crash retrievals and reverse engineering but they revealed some information that clearly establishes that discussion on the subject with its Five Eyes members is ongoing.
The information he was given confirmed a very surprising detail, that a one-day UAP conference meeting had taken place at the Pentagon on 24 May 2023, that involved all the members of the alliance.
It was this revelation that prompted me on 19 June 2024 to submit an FOI to the MOD for further information.
See the text of my FOI submission at the beginning of this blog:
My submission was a simple request for information in light of the one-day UAP conference that had taken place in May. Who attended for the UK, what was the nature of the 45 minute UK update etc.
I was a little coy in my approach to the
classification status referred to in the response to Grant Lavac’s submission.
Coy because I already knew what the classification sequence (TS//SI/TK/Rel) meant but my approach was to see if they would spell out the same for me in their response to me.
I.e. TOP SECRET//SENSITIVE MATERIAL/SATELLITE IMAGARY/RELATED MATERIAL
Which if you think about is rather odd based on the fact that the UK are ‘officially’ not interested in UAP at all!
MOD Response
On 20 July 2024 I received a slightly unexpected response to my submission.
Based on the questions I had asked the Defence Intelligence staff advised me that they were going to use their option of extending a further period of time to determine their response to my submission.
It focussed on four different clauses, namely: Sections 23, 24, 26 and 27.
Section 23 relates to ‘security matters’ and does not have a public interest test whilst S.24 refers to ‘national security’ and S.26 and S.27 involving ‘international relations, all of which do.
It requested more time in order to assess whether the public interest aspect outweighed the exemption status to bar the release of the pertinent information I sought.
The wording around S.24 is interesting because it refers to ‘understanding potential threats, especially if it pertains to incursions into UK airspace’.
Similarly S.26 refers to releasing 'information which could prejudice the capability, effectiveness and security of UK Armed Forces in support of current or future operations’.
S.27 refers to information that would be ‘likely to hinder defence cooperation between allies’.
MOD Contradictions
My bone of contention is that ‘officially’ successive British governments have told the UK public that at no time in the history of UFO/UAP era has there been any a threat associated to the topic and thus it is not worthy of serious attention, yet this FOI response and the considerations detailed
within it clearly point to the very opposite!
New UK UAP Pilot initiative launched in February 2024
With three other researcher colleagues I launched new initiative called ‘UK Pilots Reporting UAP’ (www.ukpilotsreportinguap.co.uk). It’s aim is to get the UK government/MOD/CAA to initiate UAP pilot procedures for both civil and military pilots.
This follows on from the work of former military pilot Ryan Graves who created ‘Americans for Safe Aerospace (ASA)’ and with two members of the Senate has also submitted legislation (Safe Airspace for Americans Act) to do just that i.e., a set UAP reporting procedure for U.S. pilots.
In the course of my research for this initiative I quickly found that on an official level there are no set procedures for UK pilots to report UAP. In fact, the term UAP is not recognised by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) at all!
This is because the MOD take the viewpoint that UFO/UAPs are not a threat to our airspace based on their assessment of UK evidence since the 1940s.
Now read the Larry Maguire letter again and the response to my FOI submission. It is clearly contradictory to the MOD’s public stance and as a former police detective inevitably leaves me feeling that there is ‘an ongoing cover-up of the UFO/UAP subject’.
The MOD are clearly, by anyone’s definition, not being transparent with the UK public on the issue of UFO/UAPs.
Delayed Defence Secretariat FOI response
In a letter dated 2nd August 2024 and as I anticipated, the delayed Defence Secretariat
response upheld the issues it raised in the initial reply to me.
However, there was some information given, i.e. it confirmed that ‘staff from the Defence Intelligence did attend the 24 May 2023 Five Eyes meeting.
‘Staff’ infers plural, i.e. at least two members of the Defence Intelligence staff attended the meeting. Alas no names are given which gives rise to the question, why not? Could it be that the names and their actual positions within Defence Intelligence could be ’eye-opening’?
In addition to the automatich exemption under (S.23 - national security) sections 24, 26 and 27 were upheld and exempted on the grounds outlined earlier.
Given the basic questions I posed in my FOI submission it beggars belief that such a response should be given. In effect the denial of the information to me serves only to reinforce my belief that the UK government and Ministry of Defence are failing to be transparent on the UFO/UAP issue.
And thus by logic their response to my questions confirms that the UK government and various UK agencies are involved in UAP research and technology.
The Larry Maguire letter certainly created a hornets nest for the Five Eyes alliance and the information it contained almost certainly referred to factual information regarding crashed UFOs and legacy reverse engineering programs.
Time will tell if that information proves to be true.
Gary Heseltine, Editor, UFO Truth Magazine
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The gutting of the Schumer Amendment
In late November 2023 I recall telling the audience at the Czech UFO Conference in Prague about the importance of the Schumer legislation and saying that if it passed into law without redactions, that it would have meant ‘Disclosure’ in all but name.
My ICER colleague, Francisco Correa, also a speaker at the event, told the audience that there were moves to strip down many of the provisions contained within the proposed UAP Disclosure Act 2023 and that he feared it would not pass in its original form.
I, ever the optimist, hoped that it would get through without significant changes however, as of late December, we know now that the original 64 pages of legislation has been paired down to just 19 and almost all of the significant provisions have been removed from the final bill. Francisco, you were right.
Only 2 of the original 24 references to Non-Human intelligence has made it into the final legislation. Similarly only 2 references to ’technologies of unknown origin’ remain and by the time you read this issue the legislation will have been signed into law by President Biden as part of the NDAA 2024 fiscal bill.
Here are some of the main things that have been removed:
Gone is the Independent Review Board which wanted to see the disclosure of significant UAP information and materials.
Gone is the use of ‘eminent domain’ which would have enabled the U.S. Federal Government to take back any materials or biological evidence of unknown or non-human origin.
Gone are improved whistleblower and witness protections.
Gone are subpoena powers and an amnesty provision for defence contractors and others in possession of UAP-related materials.
So what happened?
Well, it turns out that behind the scenes powerful forces were at work by the intelligence and defence contractors who are suspected of being involved in a decades long campaign to deny knowledge of UFO crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs.
Four senators in particular had banded together to strip the bill of its teeth.
The principal people involved were Senator Mike Turner, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee and Senator Mike Rogers, Chair of the House Armed Services Committee.
They managed to persuade Senator Mitch McConnell, the house minority senate leader and the new speaker of the house, Senator Mike Johnson, to remove much of what would have been one of the most significant pieces of legislation in United States legal history.
Significantly both Turner and Rogers have received large donations from defence contractors and it is clear that they have a powerful hold over many politicians.
So what remains of the Schumer Amendment?
Whilst the final bill is a shadow of its original draft we should not dismiss things as a total disaster. The 19 pages of legislation that are contained within the NDAA bill centre on a request by all relevant agencies to release information to the National Archives for eventual release to the public. However, it does not have legally binding provisions to compel those agencies to do so.
Therefore it is highly likely that significant information on UAP, crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs will not be released.
The intel community have covered up these details for decades so it is unlikely they will voluntarily release such information, especially as those details may indicate criminal wrongdoing.
Despite the above it should not be forgotten how far things have changed since the pivotal New York Times article in December of 2017 with references to the secret AATIP UFO program which changed
history.
Whilst the intel community and defence contractors have won this battle I believe what has emerged is something of a perfect storm for them.
The original Schumer legislation sought wide transparency of the UAP issue and the fact that it was ’gutted’ by the intel community and defence contractors offers a clear contradiction of transparency.
If there was nothing to hide about UFO/UAPs why would they try to prevent greater transparency on the issue?
Whilst the mainstream media have been reluctant to actively cover much of the developing story, I believe significant parts of it are keeping a close eye on developments. Many must now be wondering what the intel community and defence contractors are hiding?
Far from dampening the story, the culling of the Schumer legislation leaves them wide open for scrutiny and gives rise to a genuine belief that they are hiding something significant about UAPs.
The David Grusch Problem
I believe the emergence of whistleblower David Grusch is a nightmare for the intel community and defence contractors and despite several attempts to downplay the impact of his testimony at the Congressional Hearing in July 2023, no-one has successfully tarnished his reputation.
He said at that hearing that he could give members of congress much more information but only in a secure facility, a SCIF.
Given the incredible information he gave at the hearing I find it telling as 2023 draws to an end that he has still been prevented from doing so!
That in itself shows how hard the intel community is trying to slow down/stall the impact of David Grusch’s allegations.
As things stand it is hoped that members of Congress will finally get into a SCIF in mid January to read the testimony he gave to the ICIG in 2022.
Yet we are told that Grusch will not be present and such is the classification high stakes involved, that the likes of Congressman Tim Burchett and Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna may be prevented from speaking of what they learn.
So, the question remains, when will David Grusch be granted access to a SCIF so he can answer questions about his testimony?
I suspect that the intel community are vulnerable at the moment and if further first-hand whistle-blowers emerge soon they may well be severely compromised.
A recent New York Times article basically acknowledged that there was a debate to be had about the UAP issue but asked for evidence i.e. put up or shut up. Despite the immense secrecy around the subject and the classification issues, in essence I think they are right.
The failure of the Schumer legislation to pass unredacted indicates that the intel community and the Pentagon are still in control of the legislative process. That means for the Disclosure movement to make any significant breakthrough moving forward, it will have to come from a different source.
The emergence of David Grusch is a clear example of something out of left field, despite the fact that the ICIG had recorded over 11 hours of testimony from him.
One thing that isn’t really appreciated is the length of his testimony to the ICIG. Eleven hours plus, is an extraordinary length of time to give evidence if there is NO SUBSTANCE to what he is saying. The fact that it was for so long indicates the gravity and specific nature of what his testimony must have been. Indeed it was deemed ‘credible and urgent’ by the ICIG. Therefore, some parts of the intel community knew that Grusch’s testimony was in the system and at some point was likely to emerge.
Similarly, I doubt Chuck Schumer would have proposed his legislation without the approval of the President in some form. The sobering language used in it which made repeated references to Non-Human Intelligence (NHI) and the whole 64 pages had been carefully worded and crafted.
In theory this means that a breakthrough could still come via the President himself, however, I think that highly unlikely unless there was some kind of existential threat aspect regarding NHI.
Recently at a SOL Foundation event at Stanford University in the US, Karl Nell talked of ‘Catastrophic Disclosure’ which basically means via an ‘unexpected’ event.
I have been saying this for a long while. The world is changing, especially technology wise i.e. smart phones mean that it is likely only a matter of time before a major UFO/UAP incident is captured on multiple independent 4/8K cameras.
Think of the Phoenix Lights incident from 1997. If that same scenario were to happen today and with the ‘live streaming’ capability on social media platforms and 8K video quality smart phones, the authorities would NOT be able to control the narrative as was the case with the earlier incident.
Ufologically speaking, every few years, somewhere around the world, a significant mass witness sighting occurs. For example, think of the Ariel School mass sighting case in Zimbabwe in 1994. Think if that incident if it were to happen now!
What is driving Disclosure in recent years?
I have felt for some time now, that behind the scenes, something is driving the ever increasing pace of the Disclosure process.
I don’t think that is a coincidence, I think something of major importance has happened and the public are oblivious of it.
So, as I said earlier, despite the intel community succeeding in watering down the Schumer legislation, I think it’s possible that their victory will be short-lived as other ‘unexpected’ events occur.
Whether it be from first-hand legacy whistle-blowers, significant new UAP footage emerging, a foreign nation Disclosing the existence of NHI before the United States, or a Phoenix Lights UAP type event taking place—all these things risk causing panic and in effect ‘Catastrophic Disclosure’ for the people of the Earth.
In addition, more high-level people are going public with positive comments about NHI reality. Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet being one significant example. His powerful endorsement of NHI in recent months is a breath of fresh air and he can only be a major asset for the Disclosure process moving forward.
Ultimately, I believe too much has happened over the last 6 years to put the genie back into the bottle. Pace is gathering on many fronts, especially by the scientific community who are now openly getting involved in serious data- driven research which gives me belief that true Disclosure maybe tantalizingly closer than we realise.
I have said for many years that when the pressure of water on the centre of a weakened dam becomes too much, that it will collapse very quickly and when it does we will find ourselves in a true Disclosure World.
A world where 24/7, on every TV news channel, in every country, everyone is talking, hour upon hour, about Non-Human Intelligence, whether it be extraterrestrial or otherwise in origin.
That is when you will know true Disclosure has occurred and with it the world as we have known will never be the same.
And with that event it will represent the most significant moment in human history.
The battle lines are drawn. Roll on 2024.
Gary Heseltine (UK) 30/12/2023